Impossible!!!! Hahahaha
We should create a supervisor coolness and greatness measurement system... We are all biased here!!!! It wouldn't get funded by MSCA, but still...
Impossible!!!! Hahahaha
Well I wrote my proposal in 10 minutes!! And I'm sure it has 90%+
If you see my previous comments I mentioned I may get rejection. What i am saying considering that people in Evaluation are below 70 is not correct. My proposal may fail to get funds but its impossible to be below 70.ANGF wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:34 pmOh no now I am going to keep having anxiety dreams about this every Sunday!
Also for IF_IAMYOURS. I know what it's like to think you're a shoe-in because of your world-leading supervisor, novel idea, host institution being a perfect match etc. but I fell down on small things. For example, my outreach plan was considered too basic. I only got 6 weaknesses but I also did not have enough strengths. My supervisor was just one strength, the originality of the idea was just one, the novel method just one, and so on.
I sincerely hope your optimism is justified and that you get it but I just don't want anyone to feel surprised or upset like I did. There is a lot of luck involved too!
@LazyAnna this guy aberfeldy looks like a troll. Writing a proposal is not an issue if you are a well aware researcher and knows the trends and upcoming challenges.LazyAnna wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:06 pmWhat's wrong with writing your proposal in 5 days?! Ok, I admit the tone of the post you quote is a bit over the top, but still...aberfeldy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:31 pmI wish I could quote this and the last comment you made here. You wrote your proposal in 5 days and your supervisor is such a BOSS? Interesting....in 5 days and you are sure you got over 70...I think you kind of taking the piss a wee bit?IF_IAMYOURS wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:35 pm
Thanks! what I learn during 23 years of student life ->attitude matters a lot
I wrote mine in 7, because I had some personal circumstances which did not allow me to spend more time on it. I am also pretty sure I have a very decent proposal, definitely more than 70. It depends on how efficient you are at writing proposals. I will totally report my score back to this forum once I hear it.
Also, just curious about how much time you spent on yours. I hear it's usually something closer to 1 month or so.
16+2+5..If you have brain you will understandFuriousAcademic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:36 pmAnd he/she has been a student for 23 yearsaberfeldy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:31 pmI wish I could quote this and the last comment you made here. You wrote your proposal in 5 days and your supervisor is such a BOSS? Interesting....in 5 days and you are sure you got over 70...I think you kind of taking the piss a wee bit?IF_IAMYOURS wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:35 pm
Thanks! what I learn during 23 years of student life ->attitude matters a lot
Did you take 5 different degrees? Or you struggle to write properly? If it is the latter I can imagine how your proposal looks like after 5 days (and how much time your supervisor spent going through it)
I am very sorry. I just wanted to share my experience and thought it might be helpful but I see I said the wrong kind of things.rsr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:48 pmSeveral people have great supervisors here or wrote their great proposal in a short period of time... But in a forum with many anxious researchers, I don't agree with bragging about such things... Let's just respect each other and try to go through this phase together instead of trying to show off.
Note: To be clear, I am not talking about IF_IAMYOURS's post
It was an issue for me as it was my first fellowship application I put 2 months into it and a lot of effort. It is my first postdoc after PhD so I do not have much exprerience. Since then I have written 2 project grants and a couple more fellowships, so yeah you are right, perhaps now it is much easier to write since I should in theory be a 'well aware researcher' whatever that meansIF_IAMYOURS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:51 pm@LazyAnna this guy aberfeldy looks like a troll. Writing a proposal is not an issue if you are a well aware researcher and knows the trends and upcoming challenges.LazyAnna wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:06 pmWhat's wrong with writing your proposal in 5 days?! Ok, I admit the tone of the post you quote is a bit over the top, but still...
I wrote mine in 7, because I had some personal circumstances which did not allow me to spend more time on it. I am also pretty sure I have a very decent proposal, definitely more than 70. It depends on how efficient you are at writing proposals. I will totally report my score back to this forum once I hear it.
Also, just curious about how much time you spent on yours. I hear it's usually something closer to 1 month or so.
I still don't get it (16 years of education prior to University? 5 years of PhD?) but it's not important. What I am very interested in is the ranking of research groups that you mention. Can you provide with more information or is a ranking inside your head?IF_IAMYOURS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:56 pm16+2+5..If you have brain you will understandFuriousAcademic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:36 pmAnd he/she has been a student for 23 years
Did you take 5 different degrees? Or you struggle to write properly? If it is the latter I can imagine how your proposal looks like after 5 days (and how much time your supervisor spent going through it)
Unfortunately I had some experience about projects that I thought were unstoppable and unbeatable and actually I did not get what I wanted. For getting it, a good (even outstanding) supervisor is necessary but not sufficient. Innovative and good ideas are necessary but not sufficient. In the past I focussed very much on research ideas and on supervisors but actually you need a proposal that addresses each point: training, dissemination, communication, benefit for academic communities, societies and, if possible, policymakers. And I think one needs at least a month to imagine how to put everything together. It is even better to work on it two months and have some reader (possibly outside your field) that can give a fresh perspective on what you write helping for revision and re-revision before submitting. Having read some successful proposal, I think that to be crystal-clear, simple (but accurate) and easy to be read is the key for a successful application. And eventually, yes, luck, luck, luck.ANGF wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:11 pmI am very sorry. I just wanted to share my experience and thought it might be helpful but I see I said the wrong kind of things.rsr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:48 pmSeveral people have great supervisors here or wrote their great proposal in a short period of time... But in a forum with many anxious researchers, I don't agree with bragging about such things... Let's just respect each other and try to go through this phase together instead of trying to show off.
Note: To be clear, I am not talking about IF_IAMYOURS's post
Let me say it in a better way - everyone should have confidence in themselves and their proposal. The little things are not as important as the whole they add up to, so do not worry if you think someone else has a 'better' supervisor, or is going to a famous university etc. But also do not be too shaken by your reviews if you do not get it - they will be useful for reapplying and sometimes you are just unlucky.