Talk Academia

ATBGF2017 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:40 pm

I think it is healthier this way. Last year we speculated a lot based on the "phase" which had no meaningful implication. I killed a lot of time on this forum and became super un-productive for 2-3 weeks. This year there is not much to speculate and I did not isolate myself from the real world. I hope we get the results soon and everyone ends up with a big smile on their face

Maybe you are right! But it is also possible that they have not yet uploaded the evaluation data on the participant portal! Anyway, I hope the results will be announced by this weekend because it is getting really frustrating!

https://ec.europa.eu/research/participa ... xx/history

I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE

"The Profile Registration and Editing, Identity, Bank Account, Contracts and Payments functionalities in the Experts Area will be unavailable on Wednesday, 23.01.2019, between 07:30 and 08:10T CET."

Game on?!

It says expert are so i guess has nothing to do with us!
Keep clam we will know in few days!

SOC-2018 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:55 pm

"The Profile Registration and Editing, Identity, Bank Account, Contracts and Payments functionalities in the Experts Area will be unavailable on Wednesday, 23.01.2019, between 07:30 and 08:10T CET."

Game on?!

Is there any statistics on number of applicants per panel?

You don't really have a choice me amigo....

fr489 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:34 pm

I CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE

I remember a few years ago I applied for a Guggenhiem grant, I didn't get it, I assumed I wouldn't get it as I was outside of the USA, I wasn't even sure if I was going to finish the PhD at the time so was unsure if I would even accept the grant if chosen, but, still, man that rejection hurt bad.

Goddamn why do we do this to ourselves?

I guess we will never know
In my case, i do this because I can't see myself doing something different. Science is my passion, rather than being a source of having a (low ) income every month. Some people would say that I don't know how it is outside academia; i think it would be extremely boring!

Bren wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:21 pm

I remember a few years ago I applied for a Guggenhiem grant, I didn't get it, I assumed I wouldn't get it as I was outside of the USA, I wasn't even sure if I was going to finish the PhD at the time so was unsure if I would even accept the grant if chosen, but, still, man that rejection hurt bad.

Goddamn why do we do this to ourselves?

Bren wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:21 pm

I remember a few years ago I applied for a Guggenhiem grant, I didn't get it, I assumed I wouldn't get it as I was outside of the USA, I wasn't even sure if I was going to finish the PhD at the time so was unsure if I would even accept the grant if chosen, but, still, man that rejection hurt bad.

Goddamn why do we do this to ourselves?

I admit I did it because these fellowships are my only hope to get a decent salary at an entry-level (I'm still "postdocking"). As rewarding as academia can be, it seems very difficult to have non-abusive, permanent contracts in my field.

Dealing with rejection is a must. It is most likely that in our careers we have had, have or will have (if still there..) more grants rejected than awarded. I know it is a pain in the neck and it hurts every time, but there is no alternative!

Anyway, and regarding also megasphaera comment: there is life outside academia, and I do not think it would be extremely boring. I am also passionate about science and have shaped my life around it during more than 10 years. And? the fact that you like science or academia does not mean that the whole career is worth it, or that having a poor work-life balance during the best stages of your adulthood is not going to affect you personally, mentally or physically in the long-term. Just saying... it is not a failure not to work in academia after years of dedication. What has been done, has been enjoyed and it has not been a waste of time.

Bren wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:21 pm

I remember a few years ago I applied for a Guggenhiem grant, I didn't get it, I assumed I wouldn't get it as I was outside of the USA, I wasn't even sure if I was going to finish the PhD at the time so was unsure if I would even accept the grant if chosen, but, still, man that rejection hurt bad.

Goddamn why do we do this to ourselves?