fr489 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:22 pmI completely agree with this. I think the rest of the proposal was decent, especially for a first timer, but I assume one cannot afford minor errors like these.
If you are all curious, I exceeded the one-page limit for the participating organisation, in a very silly way (changing the font size would have been enough to keep it at one page). I misread the instructions and remained convinced all along that the one-page limit applied to something else. Mea culpa. Thus I expected (even wanted) a very early rejection that would allow me to find alternatives with the host organisation.
SOC-2018 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:08 pmAs the evaluators' assessment is essentially based on the first section of the proposal, I think it is not so surprising if your proposal reaches the threshold of 70 (provided that the first section is really well-written)! However, I'm afraid your mistake may cost you the fellowship because it is too competitive! but who knows?! keep your fingers crossed!fr489 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:53 pmHello everyone again
I personally think it's good that we know we should not extent results soon (thanks Bren and others who posted about if before). This constant wait and forum-refreshing state of mind does not seem very good.
I'm not very optimistic because I made a formal mistake in Form B-2 (without exceeding the maximum page numbers). I know what you are going to say: if I was not careful enough, I probably do not deserve the grant! The truth is that I spent a lot of time on the application but I misunderstood something all along, and only noticed after submission. Please have some understanding and don't trash me yet!
This formal mistake would suggest I should not even pass the 70% threshold! And still, I appeared on Ranking. Paradoxically, I need to have the rejection ASAP because my host organisation told me that, if that were the case, we could prepare alternative ways for me to join the research centre.
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Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
I don't think, they will reject an application for that. In the b1 for sure, but in b2 maybe not.
Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
My two cents (since I’m currently working at a national funding agency): if it’s a requirement in the proposal instructions, it is meant to be checked by staff when the proposals are submitted (eligibility check). This process is very thorough, but mistakes are made. So you could have slipped through the net (yay!), or it is not one of the criteria on which your application would be disqualified (also yay!). I could hardly imagine that you would be disqualified based on this tiny thing and not have been informed yet, although EU does do these things differently than national funding bodies.
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Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
That will make zero difference. I also exceeded that limit, and I studied 3 very high scoring proposals from previous years as part of my preparation and they all exceeded that limit too. So don't worry, if we don't get the funding its because our proposals are shit rather than due to exceeding page limits
fr489 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:22 pmI completely agree with this. I think the rest of the proposal was decent, especially for a first timer, but I assume one cannot afford minor errors like these.
If you are all curious, I exceeded the one-page limit for the participating organisation, in a very silly way (changing the font size would have been enough to keep it at one page). I misread the instructions and remained convinced all along that the one-page limit applied to something else. Mea culpa. Thus I expected (even wanted) a very early rejection that would allow me to find alternatives with the host organisation.
SOC-2018 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:08 pmAs the evaluators' assessment is essentially based on the first section of the proposal, I think it is not so surprising if your proposal reaches the threshold of 70 (provided that the first section is really well-written)! However, I'm afraid your mistake may cost you the fellowship because it is too competitive! but who knows?! keep your fingers crossed!fr489 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:53 pmHello everyone again
I personally think it's good that we know we should not extent results soon (thanks Bren and others who posted about if before). This constant wait and forum-refreshing state of mind does not seem very good.
I'm not very optimistic because I made a formal mistake in Form B-2 (without exceeding the maximum page numbers). I know what you are going to say: if I was not careful enough, I probably do not deserve the grant! The truth is that I spent a lot of time on the application but I misunderstood something all along, and only noticed after submission. Please have some understanding and don't trash me yet!
This formal mistake would suggest I should not even pass the 70% threshold! And still, I appeared on Ranking. Paradoxically, I need to have the rejection ASAP because my host organisation told me that, if that were the case, we could prepare alternative ways for me to join the research centre.
Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
I can say for sure they get back to you to fix it. I was asked last year to check the font size as one line in the pdf was slightly smaller than the limit. Took me a while to figure which. This time ran font size check on the pdf few times
Thana2019 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:40 pmMy two cents (since I’m currently working at a national funding agency): if it’s a requirement in the proposal instructions, it is meant to be checked by staff when the proposals are submitted (eligibility check). This process is very thorough, but mistakes are made. So you could have slipped through the net (yay!), or it is not one of the criteria on which your application would be disqualified (also yay!). I could hardly imagine that you would be disqualified based on this tiny thing and not have been informed yet, although EU does do these things differently than national funding bodies.
Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
Thank you Bren, as sharp as usual hahaha
Bren wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:46 pmThat will make zero difference. I also exceeded that limit, and I studied 3 very high scoring proposals from previous years as part of my preparation and they all exceeded that limit too. So don't worry, if we don't get the funding its because our proposals are shit rather than due to exceeding page limits
fr489 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:22 pmI completely agree with this. I think the rest of the proposal was decent, especially for a first timer, but I assume one cannot afford minor errors like these.
If you are all curious, I exceeded the one-page limit for the participating organisation, in a very silly way (changing the font size would have been enough to keep it at one page). I misread the instructions and remained convinced all along that the one-page limit applied to something else. Mea culpa. Thus I expected (even wanted) a very early rejection that would allow me to find alternatives with the host organisation.
SOC-2018 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:08 pm
As the evaluators' assessment is essentially based on the first section of the proposal, I think it is not so surprising if your proposal reaches the threshold of 70 (provided that the first section is really well-written)! However, I'm afraid your mistake may cost you the fellowship because it is too competitive! but who knows?! keep your fingers crossed!
Re: 2018 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2018)
Yes, I was saying that: in the guide is clearly spelled that if a minor aspect (like yours) is crucial for the eligibility of the application they can write you to fix it! So, it is not a problem, at all!
sound wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:56 pmI can say for sure they get back to you to fix it. I was asked last year to check the font size as one line in the pdf was slightly smaller than the limit. Took me a while to figure which. This time ran font size check on the pdf few timesThana2019 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:40 pmMy two cents (since I’m currently working at a national funding agency): if it’s a requirement in the proposal instructions, it is meant to be checked by staff when the proposals are submitted (eligibility check). This process is very thorough, but mistakes are made. So you could have slipped through the net (yay!), or it is not one of the criteria on which your application would be disqualified (also yay!). I could hardly imagine that you would be disqualified based on this tiny thing and not have been informed yet, although EU does do these things differently than national funding bodies.
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That's true, you're right.
evolved wrote: ↑Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:20 pmEither the information is the same in the two links or not. Subdividing the sample into more and more subcategories doesn’t help. Your assertion would need a much higher sample to validate. Mine needs only a single observation being different between the two links, which is what you also saw.