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evolved
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by evolved » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:14 pm
Some observations:
-According to the sample you collected, 60% got acceptance. That's remarkable and good news for people writing here, as evidence suggest that conditional on participating in writing in this forum, you get a much higher chance of success.
-You indicate two dates for ranking, 12 January and 24 January. There are 12 days separating the two. So unless we get a second update on 10 February, its not exactly certain what is happening this year.
CountZ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:00 pm
I went through the pages of the 2017 thread and stopped on this page as I've already spent a lot of time on it:
http://talkacademia.com/viewtopic.php?f ... start=1350
Ranked on Jan 12:
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SOC-2018 = Ranked early = Rejected
ST-LIFE - Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
ATBGF2017 = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
als = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (88.4)
RANKING = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (80%)
rsr = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
Academics_Anonymous = Jan 12 = Rejected
jezza = Jan 12 = Rejected
BB8 - Ranked Jan 12 - Reserve list
Satrius = On Jan 12 "Still in evaluation" = Accepted (maybe didn't check late enough on Jan 12 for the change)?
Ranked on Jan 24:
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RedTailedHawk = Ranked Jan 20+ = Accepted
ML-ENV = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (94%)
MSCAIF ENG 2017 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
ouriell = "went into ranking lately" = Accepted
erkaner = only checked ranking on Jan 28 and was ranked = Accepted
CHEM_ST = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
aberfeldy = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Chem-IF = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (Chem 95.2)
Phy-2017 = Reported Evaluation on Jan 21 = Accepted
sci'stache = Ranked jan 24 = Accepted
fun4sci = "Ranking since last week" = Accepted
Rapaz = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
2mc2018 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
SOCEF-msca = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Remained "Submission" Phase on ranking day
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MarieCuR = CHEM = Accepted
Still in evaluation until results released
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Amar = Still in evaluation on Jan 29 = Rejected
all_Al = Rejected
From this, it seems to me that:
- Those ranked early do not get the grant
- Those ranked later get the grant
- Those who never get ranked don't get the grant
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dreamline
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by dreamline » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:16 pm
Bren wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:10 pm
I got ranked early, earliest on this forum I think (or at least I noticed it first), so I shall blow your theory out of the water cos I am extremely confident that I got the grant
CountZ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:00 pm
I went through the pages of the 2017 thread and stopped on this page as I've already spent a lot of time on it:
http://talkacademia.com/viewtopic.php?f ... start=1350
Ranked on Jan 12:
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SOC-2018 = Ranked early = Rejected
ST-LIFE - Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
ATBGF2017 = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
als = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (88.4)
RANKING = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (80%)
rsr = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
Academics_Anonymous = Jan 12 = Rejected
jezza = Jan 12 = Rejected
BB8 - Ranked Jan 12 - Reserve list
Satrius = On Jan 12 "Still in evaluation" = Accepted (maybe didn't check late enough on Jan 12 for the change)?
Ranked on Jan 24:
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RedTailedHawk = Ranked Jan 20+ = Accepted
ML-ENV = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (94%)
MSCAIF ENG 2017 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
ouriell = "went into ranking lately" = Accepted
erkaner = only checked ranking on Jan 28 and was ranked = Accepted
CHEM_ST = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
aberfeldy = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Chem-IF = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (Chem 95.2)
Phy-2017 = Reported Evaluation on Jan 21 = Accepted
sci'stache = Ranked jan 24 = Accepted
fun4sci = "Ranking since last week" = Accepted
Rapaz = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
2mc2018 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
SOCEF-msca = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Remained "Submission" Phase on ranking day
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MarieCuR = CHEM = Accepted
Still in evaluation until results released
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Amar = Still in evaluation on Jan 29 = Rejected
all_Al = Rejected
From this, it seems to me that:
- Those ranked early do not get the grant
- Those ranked later get the grant
- Those who never get ranked don't get the grant
Is there anybody get ranked before today? Perhaps, they just have no time to rank in twice.(such as 12 Jan? and today)
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dreamline on Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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CountZ
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by CountZ » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:18 pm
There were two rankings: Jan 12 and Jan 24. They correspond almost completely to being accepted and rejected.
There might be another ranking at another time - maybe tomorrow - it doesn't have to be in 12 more days! So we could still get the results on Monday.
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by CountZ » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:19 pm
Alternatively - but less likely - this is already the second round of ranking, and the first round happened earlier this month, but just no one on the site was ranked then.
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Thana2019
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by Thana2019 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:20 pm
Fingers crossed for you Bren and everyone here Bren!
Did anyone notice in last year’s posts the person who either works for the commission or previously did who was insisting that the timing of going evaluation/ranking means zilch? They said that everyone goes through those phases and that is not related to the result. Unfortunately they got annoyed with us and left the forum
Bren wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:10 pm
I got ranked early, earliest on this forum I think (or at least I noticed it first), so I shall blow your theory out of the water cos I am extremely confident that I got the grant
CountZ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:00 pm
I went through the pages of the 2017 thread and stopped on this page as I've already spent a lot of time on it:
http://talkacademia.com/viewtopic.php?f ... start=1350
Ranked on Jan 12:
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SOC-2018 = Ranked early = Rejected
ST-LIFE - Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
ATBGF2017 = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
als = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (88.4)
RANKING = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (80%)
rsr = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
Academics_Anonymous = Jan 12 = Rejected
jezza = Jan 12 = Rejected
BB8 - Ranked Jan 12 - Reserve list
Satrius = On Jan 12 "Still in evaluation" = Accepted (maybe didn't check late enough on Jan 12 for the change)?
Ranked on Jan 24:
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RedTailedHawk = Ranked Jan 20+ = Accepted
ML-ENV = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (94%)
MSCAIF ENG 2017 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
ouriell = "went into ranking lately" = Accepted
erkaner = only checked ranking on Jan 28 and was ranked = Accepted
CHEM_ST = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
aberfeldy = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Chem-IF = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (Chem 95.2)
Phy-2017 = Reported Evaluation on Jan 21 = Accepted
sci'stache = Ranked jan 24 = Accepted
fun4sci = "Ranking since last week" = Accepted
Rapaz = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
2mc2018 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
SOCEF-msca = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Remained "Submission" Phase on ranking day
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MarieCuR = CHEM = Accepted
Still in evaluation until results released
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Amar = Still in evaluation on Jan 29 = Rejected
all_Al = Rejected
From this, it seems to me that:
- Those ranked early do not get the grant
- Those ranked later get the grant
- Those who never get ranked don't get the grant
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by MSCA-ENV » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:20 pm
Awesome job CountZ!!!
I have been sneaking for a long time without creating a user, just learning from your shared wisdom, but now I thought about putting a word after this small research project. Your hypothesis seem totally plausible, and none of the data seems to contradicts it. This year could work differently, but it seems that last call worked like this
By the way, I am still in EVALUATION, and this is the second time I submit the project after getting around 90.
Cheers guys!
CountZ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:00 pm
I went through the pages of the 2017 thread and stopped on this page as I've already spent a lot of time on it:
http://talkacademia.com/viewtopic.php?f ... start=1350
Ranked on Jan 12:
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SOC-2018 = Ranked early = Rejected
ST-LIFE - Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
ATBGF2017 = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
als = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (88.4)
RANKING = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected (80%)
rsr = Ranked Jan 12 = Rejected
Academics_Anonymous = Jan 12 = Rejected
jezza = Jan 12 = Rejected
BB8 - Ranked Jan 12 - Reserve list
Satrius = On Jan 12 "Still in evaluation" = Accepted (maybe didn't check late enough on Jan 12 for the change)?
Ranked on Jan 24:
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RedTailedHawk = Ranked Jan 20+ = Accepted
ML-ENV = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (94%)
MSCAIF ENG 2017 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
ouriell = "went into ranking lately" = Accepted
erkaner = only checked ranking on Jan 28 and was ranked = Accepted
CHEM_ST = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
aberfeldy = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Chem-IF = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted (Chem 95.2)
Phy-2017 = Reported Evaluation on Jan 21 = Accepted
sci'stache = Ranked jan 24 = Accepted
fun4sci = "Ranking since last week" = Accepted
Rapaz = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
2mc2018 = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
SOCEF-msca = Ranked Jan 24 = Accepted
Remained "Submission" Phase on ranking day
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MarieCuR = CHEM = Accepted
Still in evaluation until results released
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Amar = Still in evaluation on Jan 29 = Rejected
all_Al = Rejected
From this, it seems to me that:
- Those ranked early do not get the grant
- Those ranked later get the grant
- Those who never get ranked don't get the grant
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by danGFSOC » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:22 pm
My speculation is that for "ranked" we cannot say anything as the process this year happened too fastly. Maybe we have more elements for the "evaluation" status... but too fuzzy to say something
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Bren
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by Bren » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:23 pm
The sample on this forum is way too small to draw any conclusions.
danGFSOC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:22 pm
My speculation is that for "ranked" we cannot say anything as the process this year happened too fastly. Maybe we have more elements for the "evaluation" status... but too fuzzy to say something
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Cla
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by Cla » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:29 pm
How many people here are still in evaluation?
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Bren
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by Bren » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:37 pm
Somewhere in the range of 20 to 40% of folks, depending on panel, don't make the 70% threshold. That just boggles the mind.