2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Cr@zyChem
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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Cr@zyChem » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:39 pm

CatTaotao wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:32 pm
We need to see if there is still phase changeing tomorrow
That's a great point. Was there a period of no change before results were out? If so, how long?
However, I think it depends on how many proposals each evaluator got also... So many variables...

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by NCP » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:45 pm

4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:37 pm
Again, from reading through last year's thread, I think this may be what happens:

If you remain in submission phase, then possibly your proposal was never sent out for review, maybe because you filled out something wrong in the form or something like that.

Everyone whose proposal went out for review moves to evaluation phase when the EU start entering the results.

Anyone who scored >70% moves to ranking phase.

The computer sorts out those in ranking from 100% to 70% for each panel and starts allocating the budget set for that panel, moving down the list and giving funding to the proposals one by one until the money runs out. The last proposal funded becomes the cut off value (for example maybe 92.4% in one panel, 90.7% in another etc.) A few proposals below that cut off mark get put in the reserve list and everyone else unfortunately doesn't get funded.

>85% = seal of excellence.

However, there are always glitches in a system, especially when dealing with thousands of proposals, so you do sometimes get people who remain in submission or evaluation who get funded.
Good point actually!

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by alherpo » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:45 pm

4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:37 pm
Again, from reading through last year's thread, I think this may be what happens:

If you remain in submission phase, then possibly your proposal was never sent out for review, maybe because you filled out something wrong in the form or something like that.

Everyone whose proposal went out for review moves to evaluation phase when the EU start entering the results.

Anyone who scored >70% moves to ranking phase.

The computer sorts out those in ranking from 100% to 70% for each panel and starts allocating the budget set for that panel, moving down the list and giving funding to the proposals one by one until the money runs out. The last proposal funded becomes the cut off value (for example maybe 92.4% in one panel, 90.7% in another etc.) A few proposals below that cut off mark get put in the reserve list and everyone else unfortunately doesn't get funded.

>85% = seal of excellence.

However, there are always glitches in a system, especially when dealing with thousands of proposals, so you do sometimes get people who remain in submission or evaluation who get funded.
i think you are really close to reality!

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by MSCCCCCC » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:47 pm

this is maddening (but also kind of fun ;)
methinks its bed time...
see you all tomorrow for more enticing phase discussions and speculations !

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Cr@zyChem » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:51 pm

4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:37 pm
Again, from reading through last year's thread, I think this may be what happens:

If you remain in submission phase, then possibly your proposal was never sent out for review, maybe because you filled out something wrong in the form or something like that.

Everyone whose proposal went out for review moves to evaluation phase when the EU start entering the results.

Anyone who scored >70% moves to ranking phase.

The computer sorts out those in ranking from 100% to 70% for each panel and starts allocating the budget set for that panel, moving down the list and giving funding to the proposals one by one until the money runs out. The last proposal funded becomes the cut off value (for example maybe 92.4% in one panel, 90.7% in another etc.) A few proposals below that cut off mark get put in the reserve list and everyone else unfortunately doesn't get funded.

>85% = seal of excellence.

However, there are always glitches in a system, especially when dealing with thousands of proposals, so you do sometimes get people who remain in submission or evaluation who get funded.
Very well summarized!

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by Cr@zyChem » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 pm

4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:37 pm
Again, from reading through last year's thread, I think this may be what happens:

If you remain in submission phase, then possibly your proposal was never sent out for review, maybe because you filled out something wrong in the form or something like that.

Everyone whose proposal went out for review moves to evaluation phase when the EU start entering the results.

Anyone who scored >70% moves to ranking phase.

The computer sorts out those in ranking from 100% to 70% for each panel and starts allocating the budget set for that panel, moving down the list and giving funding to the proposals one by one until the money runs out. The last proposal funded becomes the cut off value (for example maybe 92.4% in one panel, 90.7% in another etc.) A few proposals below that cut off mark get put in the reserve list and everyone else unfortunately doesn't get funded.

>85% = seal of excellence.

However, there are always glitches in a system, especially when dealing with thousands of proposals, so you do sometimes get people who remain in submission or evaluation who get funded.
Also, there's a part that mention that chair may not agree with evaluation, etc... So phase might change back, etc ...

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by 4degrees » Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:59 pm

Cr@zyChem wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:53 pm
4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:37 pm
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Also, there's a part that mention that chair may not agree with evaluation, etc... So phase might change back, etc ...
Oh really? I wonder if that's what happened with Dreamer, it seemed like he went from evaluation to ranking and then back to evaluation.


Anyway, good night everyone, see you all tomorrow for more wild speculations :lol: Hopefully tomorrow we can start making some memes to get us through however long we have left to wait.

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by dw2022 » Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:17 am

4degrees wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:25 pm
dw2022 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:16 pm
Cr@zyChem wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 11:00 pm


Wasn´t it 3 days after phase change that dreamer started releasing results last year?
If I remember correctly, last year the phase started to change on Thursday, dreamer said NCPs would have the results on Friday, and he got the list (from his NCP) on the next Monday.
I've been reading through last year's thread. This was the first person who noticed their phase change:
Re: 2020 Marie Curie Individual Fellowship (H2020-MSCA-IF-2020)
Post by lifmc2020 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:40 am

im in evaluation
Then Dreamer started sending people their results on the Saturday, so their NCP probably had the results on Friday 5th. Then official emails started getting sent Sunday evening/early Monday morning (depending on your time zone).

I think it's possible that NCPs will have the results on Friday of this week and we may get emails on Sunday night/early Monday morning. But I'm just speculating, I have no inside information.
Thanks for the fact check!! :D :D

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by alexinem » Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:44 am

Lets start the MAdnessssssssssssssssssssssssss! :D :lol:

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Re: 2021 Marie Curie Postdoctoral Fellowship (HE-MSCA-PF-2021)

Post by chemcps » Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:53 am

In Evaluation about 48 hrs (CHE Panel).

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